corn'd n bung'd

[Quinn]

Now your sponsors will never know how pretty you are...

[Eager]

That's cool I'm moving here, it's pretty.

[chameleon]

thanks Quinn. did you get any shots from the lower boulder too?

your last photo best shows what i was originally commenting on (re: white streaks)
it's true that we are not talking about an environmental disaster here - more of a commentary and concern about aesthetics and style

why it is that these unnatural-looking white streaks should bother me (and not the trammelled swath of vegetation leading to the boulder) i'm not quite sure.

S

[tintanium]

why it is that these unnatural-looking white streaks should bother me (and not the trammelled swath of vegetation leading to the boulder) i'm not quite sure.[quote][/quote]

Do you also find yourself moaning about baggy jeans? loud music?

Do you indulge in prolonged bouts of reminiscence, contemplating happier days of yore?

The trammelled swath represents the well-trodden and familiar path you have taken to middle age, and the white streaks are those dagnabit innovations that clutter and complicate your life.

[chameleon]

Not really, tintin.

But don't worry about it. A lot of fellas yer age have trouble with those things......Mr. T......Schtamp.......

[Quinn]

I actually agree with you. I think we should try to minimize our impact in every way possible - within reason. However, when the debate about the effect of chalk on lichen started I couldn't suppress my message board flame reflex. Here are some pics of the lower boulder that capture what you are talking about. Saying it looks like flowers is an over reaction, but we should try to limit further impact.

[seanT]

all i see in those photos is some flailing and someone landing on their ass!

[ben smith]

I bathed the jug on can't trust skinney people in acetone and bleach and lit it on fire because its the the crux hold on my project and it had to be sparking clean for top friction to send...

Tards.

[Quinn]

I bathed the jug on can't trust skinney people in acetone and bleach and lit it on fire because its the the crux hold on my project and it had to be sparking clean for top friction to send...

Tards.

So basically you used napalm like I suggested.

[seanT]

Ben did you use the flames to cook up any squirrel meat?
Sean

[patzer]

Sorrows End has some pretty huge white streaks too we noticed last weekend!

[chameleon]

I have a hard time imagining that Ben or his disciples hosed the holds on "All the Rage" with acetone.
Must be chalk I guess. That's a shame.
I imagine that the same thing must happen in other similar environments (like Wellsford or Squamish?) with lots of traffic. Never noticed (or looked for it) before, myself.

[stoneseeker]

Wait a minute-- Ben has disciples?!?


That would be one messed up cult!

[the kydd]

I've never noticed any streak marks, like in the photos above, in Squamish before.

However, Squamish has a very different type of moss on the rocks. Most of the boulders are covered in a heavy green moss, not the hard black lichen found in NS. Perhaps the lichen reacts differently than the rainforest moss typically found in Squamish. Also, a lot of the problems see many many more ascents than in NS. Established, well travelled problems in Squamish tend to be cleaner than those in NS.

Just my two cents, but I'll def keep an eye out for said streak marks and if I find any I'll be sure to snap a picture and post it.

Jeff

Who's coming for a tour of Squamish this summer??

[ben smith]

Its caused by new climbers and their terrible foot work. Sloppy ploppin' for days.

[the kydd]

Ben,

That option had crossed my mind. Could be true, especially because most of the streak marks seem to be directly underneath existing holds... damn toe draggers.

Or not being able to make it to the hold, so people are slapping, leaving chalk, skin, and grease below the holds.

[chameleon]

toe draggers...........could also be mouth breathers.......

[seanT]

im sure Ben knows to breath thru his nose....

[chameleon]

i think ben's right...nose breathin' toe draggers (old and new alike).....

check out this online photo from 2004:

http://www.rockclimbing.com/photos/Misc/Jessie_Climbing_Dreamberry_Wine_40125.html

the same marks are there, just less pronounced.
i guess we're just seeing the slow wear and tear of climbing in nova scotia
All the Rage is probably the most climbed route in the province........
And in another decade it will be one wide white swath - something that would happen in Skaha in only a couple of seasons.

[Zamboni]

"Breath through your nose" Did Andrea teach you that while cleaning her rugs!

[jeremy benjamin]

Climbing = Eco-terrorism

Embrace it.

Also, leave no trace.

Take only photos.

leave only footprints (and naked boulders with white streaks and tick marks and wide borders of flattened vegetation).

[Dom]

I imagine that the same thing must happen in other similar environments (like Wellsford or Squamish?) with lots of traffic. Never noticed (or looked for it) before, myself.

It's not happening in Welsford.

Same can't be said for Clifton Maine hehehe.

The owner of the cliffs is cool with using chemicals, and shooting shotguns ...

[betaburgler]

So Metolius has a solution:

http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/eco_ball.html

Claims it leaves no trace, and supertopo says its sticky:

http://www.supertopo.com/review/Metolius-Eco-Ball

Although I'm not sure climbing would ever be the same without powdered magnesia getting into everything...

[cstamp]

Loves Quinn.