New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

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New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Jamie Simpson » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:25 am

Hi Folks -

I finally got around to leading the new route behind the Chamcook Boulder, in between Monkey Business and Gusher.

The crux was wet, so hard to judge the difficulty rating, but I'm thinking it's likely 5.10c-ish -- but someone else should get on it when dry and let me know what you think... let's say it's unconfirmed for now.

My partner suggested calling it "Wet and Dirty", which has a certain ring to it :wink:, but we settled on "Flight of the Turkey Vulture" in honour of seeing a massive turkey vulture in a tree just behind the big boulder after finishing the route. It had a disappointed look in its eye.

anyway - the details: Flight of the Turkey Vulture: 8 bolts, 2 rap rings for anchor; 25m; sport FFA: Jamie Simpson, June 2, 08

(ok - so this is probably too much information, but... near the top there's an awkward move with the bolt a few feet below you... if you commit to climbing up into the dihedral, you'll be rewarded with a good hand hold and a bolt within easy reach... just a little heady because the bolt is out of view until you commit to the slightly awkward move)
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby cory » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:32 pm

how bad are the bugs down there? Looking for something to climb this weekend...
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Fred » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:45 pm

sweet! we have 24 new routes already since the new guidebook
I want to go to hell... there's probably lots of rock to climb there.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Jamie Simpson » Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:39 pm

amazingly there weren't many bugs at all -- my belayer noticed a few, but neither of us used any bug spray, and I didn't get any bites... go figure! Maybe they're just resting up for the weekend on-slaught of climbers : )

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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby martha » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:51 am

Jamie Simpson wrote:amazingly there weren't many bugs at all -- my belayer noticed a few, but neither of us used any bug spray, and I didn't get any bites... go figure! Maybe they're just resting up for the weekend on-slaught of climbers : )

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We all know that Bugs don't bite hippies. You guys never need bug spray... :lol: :lol:
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Jamie Simpson » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:07 am

Cara, are you trying to tell me that I ought to bathe a little more often? Is that what this is all about? :wink:
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby chossmonkey » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:18 am

martha wrote:
Jamie Simpson wrote:amazingly there weren't many bugs at all -- my belayer noticed a few, but neither of us used any bug spray, and I didn't get any bites... go figure! Maybe they're just resting up for the weekend on-slaught of climbers : )

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We all know that Bugs don't bite hippies. You guys never need bug spray... :lol: :lol:
That would be an awesome route name.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Nihoa » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:09 pm

that turkey vulture has a nest under the largest of the 3 boulders grouped together below bookends. we flushed it a few times on sunday and it hung around in the dead spruce for a bit
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby *Chris* » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:30 pm

I believe we observed the same bird several weeks earlier exhibiting the same behaviour. They're about as charming as finding the cause of that weird smell coming from the parts of your fridge that you haven't explored in a while.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Joe » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:27 am

There's a good chance of the chicks not surviving if the adults are kept away from the nest for too long by climbers. Please be considerate and avoid significant disturbance to nesting wildlife... even if they smell like hippies. Thanks.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Jamie Simpson » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:48 am

Hmm - I concur. I wonder if there's a way to avoid disturbing the nest? Avoiding the immediate area around the nest perhaps?

By the way, I remember that a couple of years ago it was a big deal to find a nesting turkey vulture, as they have only recently shown up in NB -- confirmation of a nest would be important to birders - but perhaps this has already happened elsewhere?

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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Adam » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:04 am

Jamie Simpson wrote:I wonder if there's a way to avoid disturbing the nest? Avoiding the immediate area around the nest perhaps?


last time we were down there we actually redirected the trail to avoid passing right by that boulder -- erick was nice enough to clear out some brush and rearrange some rocks so there's a decent trail right along the cliff.

when you approach the cliff now, the trail leads up and behind the chamcook boulder, and then stays along the edge of the cliff, instead of going around all the boulders. please use this new trail to avoid the nest site, and to minimize erosion.

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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Nihoa » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:46 pm

being a big clumsy bird with a nest on the ground they start to flush long before you get too close. it was flushing just as the trail started to meet the cliff for us and i doubt there is much chance at all it will stay on the nest while people are on bookend.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby martha » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:46 pm

Perhaps not climbing on the Bookend until the babies are out is a good idea? Your thoughts Joe and Mark... since you two are the experts!

Not that I really care about the birds, ugly stinky things they are... However, we all have to share and live together.... (big group hippie hug everyone!)
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Jamie Simpson » Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:12 pm

Including spiders, right Cara? Even spiders need some lovin'.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby martha » Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:49 am

Jamie Simpson wrote:Including spiders, right Cara? Even spiders need some lovin'.



No. the spiders can die. All of them.


Why else would I carry a hex on my harness? You all know I've taken lead falls over those creapy little Buggars...


EEEEKKKKKK!!!!!

Hey, if Turkey Vultures go in the same category as spiders, then just pour some gasoline over them too.... it should take care of them no problem....
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby *Chris* » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:40 am

I'm sure we can find a happy medium somewhere between big group-hippie hugs and hex smashing, gas-pouring annihilation. Besides... the gas would be too expensive and the hexes can be put to better use :wink:
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby martha » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:14 am

Oh yeah, Gas is pretty pricy eh. Guess I won't be dropping my potato bugs into a can of gas this summer... it will cost too much. haha. I'll have to opt for Javex... and at least that is environmentally friendly(ier)... hehe.

Better use for hexes? I dunno Chris, I haven't actually used one on a route except as a spider killer in years. But I do like them, especially since they sound so damn cool.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Joe » Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:39 am

Despite the large numbers of vultures we see flying around, there are only 3 -4 known vulture nests in NB. However they are very sensitive to human disturbance and typically nest in secluded areas, so there are likely more out there. Regardless, this "Bookend" nest is still rare and deserves protection. The chicks are very young now and the adults will abandon if there is too much disturbance. I'd recommend not disturbing the nest for the month of June. The chick will still be in the nest until August, but by July it should be large enough to tolerate some disturbance for a short time. It should fly away during the first week of August. Thanks, Joe.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Nihoa » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:54 pm

no chicks yet joe, 2 eggs as of last sunday
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Adam » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:39 pm

the nest was in the same place last year so i'm guessing they're not too bothered by the climbing traffic. still, would be to avoid the immediate area.
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Re: New Greenlaw Route: Flight of the Turkey Vulture, 10c-ish

Postby Burley » Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:57 pm

Yup there was a chick there last year... didn't even seem to mind when an unnamed female climber tried to pee on it!

Oh did we laugh...

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