Welsfords "best" 5.12

[motanb]

So I'd like to know what people regard as the most aesthetic 5.12 in Welsford? Whatever may influence your choice- style, steepness etc.

For me, I choose "Perfect" 5.12b. Super hard climbing! Balance, footwork, flexibility, finger strength! This climb requires all of this and more! After the 3rd bolt it morphs into trad, and its kinda ballsy!! (so long as the pro is not preplaced) I like this thrilling aspect to the route.
Not to mention, the rock quality is prime as is the friction superb as well!

So for myself, I regard this route as one of Welsford's best 12's.

[Fred]

Farewell to Arms

[martha]

I am with Fred on Farewell to Arms.

I haven't been on Perfect, though I would like to get on it. Sounds totally my style!

[NB_Gecko]

I'm with Fred definetley "perfect", I love the view, and the moves, still haven't sent it. But there's so much versatility around it, that it still makes it fun. So you can climb hard, or climb at other levels with friends.
Perfect is my life

[PeterA]

farewell to arms as well

[Fred]

I'm with Fred definetley "perfect"

uh?... I said 'Farewell to Arms' hehe

[NB_Gecko]

My bad I'm a little off, I'm REALLY with motanb.

[Joe]

Do you really think Farewell to Arms is a 12? I redpointed it a few times, but I couldn't get Perfect. I also worked Lithium Crystal, and came close but not close enough. So I assumed Farewell was easier than those two, like 11.d-ish. But it gets my vote, because it's the only one I could do!

[martha]

Yeah, I don't find Farewell to Arms THAT much harder than Montezumas Revenge.

11dish for Farewell makes more sense to me.

[STeveA]

I will vote for Farewell to Arms, not that I am prejudice. This climb can go really easy, felt like 5.6 when I finally redpointed it, but one misstep and well; Farewell to Arms.

Keep in mind that grades are for an onsight. Once you have dogged, top roped or seconded a route then you have to be careful about re-grading. There are many routes that once you have the moves wired, or you know about a 'trick' then the climb is suddenly much easier.

[Anonymous]

just for variety i'll suggest Ra at sunnyside...

beauty route. sustained technical 5.11 moves up slightly forward leaning face... then the crux... again technical and sequency... very tricky route... but overall just a great sequence of moves. still awaiting a 2nd ascent...